 Killing Endless...
Subject: Killing an Endless / Hob's Dream? My appologies if both of these topics are covered in a FAQ somewhere... The first topic is: Just how "mortal" are the Endless? In this group I saw a post in which someone assumed that it must have been the Kindly Ones that killed the first Despair. This doesn't really make sense, but on the other hand, if the Endless were very easy to kill they would have a much higher mortality rate. Now, after 70 years in captivity, Dream became very weak. On his way back to the Dreaming he collapsed in the Shifting Zones (because he had used up the last of his strength helping Marco Polo, presumably) and had to be dragged back to the Dreaming and nursed back to health. If he had not been found in time, would he have died? On the other hand, in order for him to die, his sister has to come for him, and she might decide to cut him some slack. In fact, do we have any evidence that Death would take one of her siblings other than voluntarily? The second question is related: In the RenFaire story, Hob Gadling has a dream in which he sees Morpheus walk off with the ne-er-do-well that we know as Destruction. Does that mean that the previous aspect of Dream still exists in some context, as dead mortals do in the Sandman series, or is it "just a dream"? I originally assumed that the continuity of the "new" Dream with the "old" Dream precluded a conventional afterlife for an Endless; you would wind up with multiple copies, only one of which is currently "official", but all of which would be around till the end of the universe. Subject: Re: Killing an Endless / Hob's Dream? Paul wrote: Morpheus himself may have been transmuted into Daniel, but a dream of Morpheus can exist. That would make an interesting short story. stumblingly, luna Subject: Re: Killing an Endless / Hob's Dream? Paul Ciszek wrote in message ... Quite possibly. Dream admits to his mortality more than once, notably when he is visiting hell. >On the other hand, in order for him to die, his sister has to Good question. I don't think you'll find a definitive "answer" in published
Sandman stories, I don't think there are even any direct references to this. >The second question is related: In the RenFaire story, Hob Gadling My assumption of was that this was just a dream. It's perfectly common to dream of dead people and entities, it just move slightly confusing territory if you're dreaming of a dead aspect of the personification of Dream >I originally assumed that the continuity I feel certain that Delirium would have some definite opinions on that matter. What they would be is anybody's guess. Morningstar Subject: Re: Killing an Endless / Hob's Dream? Paul Ciszek wrote: > My appologies if both of these topics are covered in a FAQ somewhere... Their is one line in Season of Mists that seems to imply that she would. In the prologue, after Death has convinced Dream about the wrongness of him imprisoning Nada and he has decided to leave for Hell, he states "Either I shall bring Nada out of Hell...or I shall see you again soon my sister. See you again for one final time." Also, the fact that someone killed Despair would seem to imply that they don't jave to want their death to die, though it is possible that Despair killed herself. > The second question is related: In the RenFaire story, Hob Gadling I've wondered about what happens to dead Endless myself. I've always thought they pass on beyond the ken of mortal understanding, perhaps into some sort of afterlife, and mayhaps Morpheus stopped by Hob Galding's dream on the way.
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